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No CE for civil servants pursuing Degree


Jun 19, 2014

ContinuingEducation.The Royal Civil Service Commission (RCSC) will stop civil servants from pursuing Continuing Education (CE); Degree or Under Graduate programmes. The announcement comes barely a month since the new set of commissioners took over the office.

The RCSC describes the decision as ‘reforming the Bhutan civil service system’, to make it stronger based on meritocracy.

“…In this political set up if you have a lot of people doing CE and not getting through the Civil Service exam we will have a big group of people who will lobby with the politicians…” said RCSC’s Commissioner, Karma Hamu. She said the politicians in turn would pressurize the RCSC and that could undermine the very foundation of having meritocracy in Civil Service.

Continuing Education will be allowed only for Masters or Specialisation.

RCSC has also done away with training gaps and obligations.ContinuingEducation-toDiscontinue

“We are not giving any training obligations after you complete the IAS (Indian Administrative Service) course so the very next day you reach here and if you want to go for your masters, then you are free to go because training gap obligation is not kept,” said Commissioner, Kesang Deki.

She said RCSC recognises the importance of having IAS level. “Who does the IAS in India? They are the people who will be the future top leadership in India and our close contact with India requires that we also maintain this personal contact.”

Previously, Civil Servants who have been trained under 18 months IAS program had a training gap or obligation of 36 months.

In addition, RCSC will also allow Post Graduate Diploma in Public Administration (PGDPA), who have completed their one year probation period in Civil Service, to apply for Masters.

The announcement was made during a consultative meeting in Samtse.  The Consultative Meeting with Civil Servants is part of exercise to get views, feedback and recommendations on five broad streams the RCSC is working on to make Civil Service robust through reforms in the system. It includes the Position Classification System, Performance Management System and freezing decentralised recruitment and opening of Civil Servant Welfare scheme.

26 Comments for “No CE for civil servants pursuing Degree”

  1. Choki T Dorji

    Thank you new commissioners for new rules you have come up but before implementation of your new rules..i think you may have to make amendment in BCSR 2012. It’s good that your doing away some obligation for those P-level but at the same time i hope you might have done some research about Non-degree civil servant……if you want to know the value of those Non-degree ..you can declare one official day as holiday to all S1 and below level. Then you can see….whether your P-levelofficer can function the office or not. My request BBS is to conduct a live show with RCSC commissioners.

  2. norbu wangdi

    What about those who have completed the IFS courses

  3. Pema

    when is this rule effect?

  4. Dorji

    I would like to know weather IPS, IRS and IFS falls under same category or not.

  5. Dorji

    I would like to know whether IPS, IRS and IFS falls under same category or not.

  6. Kuzu

    Its really very depressing, watching all these silly rules come into place every now and then, invading the poor lives of the general population. Like the politicians weren’t enough, now RCSC joins the partayy. The feeling that I live in a country where Education or Knowledge is only viewed as a means of acquiring a better job…what a shame…and to publicly announce it as the reason?? … MONUMENTALLY shameless!!. Who is RCSC to decide who can & cannot choose to learn? Its our fundamental right to improve ourselves as a human being, if we so wish. Who are they to stop? The reason(s) they sighted were so vague considering what you are asking, is for the people to lay down their ambition, yes AMBITION!!. Why are they holding their brush against the politicians above an individuals goals and aspirations? Where is the GNH, when a group of really dumb people literally tries to dictate every bit of our lives including what we consume, what we drive, and what we thrive to become? You know what? I don’t really blame you all. You all must be in your late 40’s and 50’s by now and the education system that molded you was a degenerate in the first place. But why can’t you give a chance for change? You all probably gonna meet your end in another 10-20 years. What do you wanna leave behind, ultimately what should be your legacy? A bunch of rules that never really served any real cause except you and your organization? Its when I am forced to indulge in unsettling scenarios like these that I think I shouldn’t have dropped college, somehow I will be among you all to raise a concern on how stupid you decisions sound. Otherwise I am usually content knowing that I have learnt much more through auto-didacticism than what a paper of graduation could possibly encompass.
    Its sad to see that you all never really understood the real meaning of college and you never will, and although I never completed till the end, I have practically been in 3 colleges in my life and each one made me a better man. Therefore, I personally believe that these middle age people will gain much more than what they came for, please don’t take that away from them.

    • SONAM SONAM

      NOW HOW OUR RCSC IS ALSO BEING DRAINED BY OUR POLITICIANS UNDER DIRTY POLITICS.
      TO BE FRANK THOSE UNDERGRADUATES (s LEVEL SERVANTS) CIVIL SERVANTS ARE THE ONE WORKING WITH FULL OF DEDICATION AND DETERMINATION,HOLDING SMALL POST AND STILL SERVING OUR TSA-WA-SUM WITH HOPE THAT ONE DAY THEY MAY GET CHANCE TO UPGRADE THEIR KNOWLEDGE. BUT, I AM NOT AT ALL HAPPY WITH THIS NEW RULES WHICH RCSC IS COMING UP, I HOPE PEOPLE HAVE TO RIGHT TO UPGRADE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND ALREADY THOUSANDS OF UNDERGRADUATES HAVE UPGRADED THEIR EDUCATION, UNDER THE RULES AND REGULATION OF RCSC ONLY, BUT NOW WHY CANT THOSE UNDERGRADUATE CAN’T CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION BASED ON RCSC RULES…WE WANT PERFECT REASON..

  7. Society bhutanese

    Karma Hamu/ Karma Lamu????????????

  8. Drukpa

    What about PGDFM graduates who have completed their probabation?? Are they not entitled for applying for masters??

  9. sonam

    stop every thing for the poor civil servant .this is the best compliment to the government’s tax revision and 6 to 9 percent pay revision.it will be even better if you could stop us giving us monthly salary cos we are all working for the country.and one thing for sure is civil undergradute should have to stop climbing up at grade 9 and then start corruption for the best

  10. Rigpa

    We the undergraduates servant emotionally sad with the new initiative discussed by the father of RCSC. “No CE for civil-servant perusing Degree” for S level categories will definitely demoralize in serving with dedication to Tsa-Wa-Sum. Out of 26000 plus civil servant I think, almost 16000 plus might be in S level. Actually, we appreciate some of the initiative presented by RCSC but aforementioned point needs to be justified.
    They are simply saying “If undergraduate want to upgrade qualification, plz resign and go” What does it sense? In my point of view, the decision made by the RCSC recently might hamper in every angel la, we need equity and justice for all civil servant falling under O to Ex level… My question is what is the purpose of focusing only for graduate and keeping underprivileged servant aside?
    Plzzzzz kindly revisit such decision la……………………………………………………………………

  11. Shikha

    Decision is very bad….selfish..thinking abt graduates onli..wat abt small people like me who alys wish 2 b oficer doing CE…….????? its our wish until v ve enough money 2 continue……i strongly disagreeeeeeee

  12. So So SO ...............................

    New commissioner are strengthening the civil servant or discouraging? you are encouraging rain upon water by giving more important to the degree holder. But you should know that all the ground work are done by the supporting staff with diploma and class XII qualification. Therefore, i feel it is impt. to make good based by upgrading their qualification.

    How abt those who are under process, i mean those who are already enrolled in the College ..esp. RTC? They have to stop or continue?

  13. hilltop

    This is stupid policy of the chairman and new commissioners. Please bring good change and new developments and don’t try to reinvent the wheel. How come providing CE and further study to employees of the govt. will affect the system and undermine the merotracy. Even if the politicians pressure RCSC to do away with PE but I think no politician would ever pressure RCSC to do away with RCSC common exam and meritocracy system. Please do better home and analysis before making policy change and implementation. Stupid members in RCSC.

  14. sonam

    The rules framer are those person who completed degree, so that they can easily go for master and specialization. they wanted to keep undergraduate people as it is,,,, they are afraid that, after doing degree they will face tough competition in politician.
    Commissioner said’ The Consultative Meeting with Civil Servants is part of exercise to get views, feedback and recommendations on five broad streams the RCSC is working on to make Civil Service robust through reforms in the system. …..,,,,,why conducting such meeting, wastage of govt.money, no used by giving feedback and recommendations to them,,,they never ever go through, just wasting our energy and time….RCSC can frame the rules yourself and attend meeting yourself.

  15. Lengo

    Reporter can you be more clear here? is it specifically for IAS training or any other training?

  16. Kailash Shongbhen Rai

    I salute this decision of the RCSC to do away with the CE programs.(If it means anything in our education system that it is just a crap.) When these candidates could not make up when they were given full time contact teaching, CE is just another failure. RCSC should also see the cases of B.Ed Degrees and other degrees offered by our institutions. How creditable are these degrees? Whether these degrees are professionals or academic? If its considered professional then how come one can be professional without academic degrees?

  17. Citizen Bhutan

    By now everyone that lies in higher rank want to push off lower class civil servants despite sweating tirelessly carrying out any kinds of developmental activities and other important official works.

  18. Nima Dorji

    Every civil servant should be allowed to apply for Master Programs after the probation, it would be very discriminatory to allow some when others are not allowed. That would be violation of fundamental rights against discrimination provided for by our Constitution under Article 7. However, all selection should be done through open competition and not on the basis of seniority.

  19. Tshering

    Is this the right decision? There are already hundreds, if not thousand doing CE. There are hundreds waiting to pursue further studies. Is the decision taken with prior consultations with the affected civil servants or the decision is taken by just 5 commissioner for 25 thousand or so civil servants…. I don’t see any logic here…

  20. dokdo

    Wow! some sunshine in the gloomy nest.

  21. Bhutan333

    all the Post graduate are eligible for undergoing Masters like PGDPA.

  22. nima

    how about those who have already done with the fees payment at RTC for CE programme 2014..? How about there fees? since many of the CE student they got loan to catch up the CE programme, now, even if they agree to refund the payment made for fees, how about the loan interest? on should still Countenance the lose..? please any one tell me about this..i am so much worried…

  23. Dagap

    …while appreciating a new move from the new commissioner to do away with the Training gap and obligation for civil servants but the question is why IAS/PGDPA only? Are other technical civil servants not equally important in a system? Like me, many are confused about who should or should not be eligible for such privilege under one umbrella?

  24. Kinley tshering

    Dasho Chairman,
    the thought is further creating gaps… i understood your thought but will it really work. Hungry S levels Civil Servants are frustrating..O levels are confused.. Y don’t Govt stop pursuing for masters… then hope for GNH country.
    my personnel suggestion would be— allow technical institution for degree or masters programmes.

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